Old Time Trains

Quebec

Can-Car 1 Whitcomb 65-tonner Ville St-Pierre 10/21/1967 Peter Cox

Rio Tinto Alcan Bauxite and Alumina. A rather bizarre unit that has escaped everyone as it is hidden deep within Arvida. It was acquired from Germany in 1982 or 1983 when the new calcining furnace for alumina was built using Germany technology. It came with the technology package. It apparently is a B-B arrangement with a diesel mechanical or hydraulic drive. The unit is remote controlled and has a coupler only at the rear end. It is used for moving cuts of empty covered hoppers from the R & S yard tracks into the car loader and then moving the loaded cars of alumina to the adjacent yard tracks for the R & S to lift.
With a coupler at only one end it is always operating at the same end of the yard.Roberval & Saugenay does the maintenance.
May 12, 2010 Ian Stronach

PHLX 1 acq. 9/2010 (ex Domtar 28-137 nee CN 7734) SW1200 GMD A1809 7/59
CN Mac Millan Yard enroute to Parrish and Heimbecker Foods, Yorkton, SK
September 18, 2011 Brendan Frisina

NOTE: The Norkraft Domtar pulp mill in Lebel-Sur-Quevillon (QC) had been stopped since November 2005 by a lock out, the mill permanently closed December 18 2008. The pulp mill and the sawmill, also closed, were responsible for 70% of the job in this one industry town of 3000 citizens located 600km north of Montreal.

Ex Kruger Inc. 240 Trois-Rivieres (formerly Domtar Newsprint, nee St.Lawrence Paper Mills)
ex Kruger (nee Richmond Pulp & Paper), Bromptonville.
35-ton Cummins 275 hp GE 32212 2/1955 Note: Much rarer than the common 150 hp 25-tonner built by GE.
Diesel Electric Service (D) Sudbury August 30, 2006 Ian McCord

Canadian General Transportation no number 50-tonner GE 29870 6/48 nee Price Bros. No.5 spent its first forty years in Alma then to CGTX tank car facility in Riviere des Prairies. Shown here waiting scrapping by Andrew Merrilees (D) in Montreal. April 2004 Paul McGrane.

Xstrata Copper 25 (acq. 5/80 by Noranda Mines ex PA&McKR 180) 80-ton GE 31034 11/51
Two more views. Two-man crew remote control. Rouyn-Noranda June 10, 2011

Three units at what was originally Noranda Mines Ltd. in Noranda. At right is 25, while hiding behind 27 is 18 another 80-tonner, this one acquired new by Noranda Mines Ltd. 470 HP GE 32737 15/56. All remote controlled with two man crew.
Xstrata 27 (acq.1997) is SW1200RM ex CANX 27, ex CN 1326 frame with other parts from 7315 ex 1325 SW1200RS.

E.B.Eddy 2 GE 25-ton Hull January 1972 Stan Jones/Bruce Chapman Collection

E.B.Eddy #nil GE 50 ton #27935 12/46 (Rebuilt 1951 with Cummins engines and from 45 ton).
Thurso, September 13, 1981 Bob Heathorn

Francon Construction 250-05 Plymouth 30-ton MDT #5854 6/55 Walkley Yard, Ottawa November 1972
Craig/Bruce Chapman Collection
Note: This dinky worked at Franceschini Pit near Shawville M.49 CP Waltham Sub.

Smurfit-Stone Container (Canada) 2 (acq. 3/69 ex L&N 24) Alco S-1 #73586 9/45 October 6, 2006 Sean Kelly

Shown at Walkely Yard in Ottawa waiting for installation of roller bearing wheelsets for movement back to the US.
By this time all units had been disposed of with switching of the Pontiac mill turned over to Ottawa Central.

Located in Portage-du-Fort, Quebec, formerly, Abitibi-Consolidated, Stone Consolidated,
Consolidated Bathurst, originally Bathurst Power and Paper.

A long history came to an end when the mill closed down permanently October 31, 2008 with the loss 218 jobs.
At the time the mill could produce 253,000 tons a year of Northern Bleached Hardwood Kraft pulp used to make paper.

Stone Consolidated 4 acq. 1986 as Consolidated Bathurst 3 nee Rock Island 911. SW900 EMD 23461 9/59.
Portage du Fort August 12, 1999 Bob Heathorn

Holcim Ltd. Z100 (formerly, Ciment St-Laurent, Ciment Independant) S-11 MLW #82564 7/59 (acq. 6/77 ex CP 6622)
Re-engined 1987 Detroit Diesel (another source indicates Cummins) by Andrew Merrilees Ltd.
Note: This was the second last 660 HP CPR unit. Joliette, May 2009 Louis Letourneau

Quebec North Shore Paper 22 (acq.6/79) ex Roberval & Saguenay 22 RS-2 MLW #81185 4/55
Baie Comeau July 13, 1984 Pierre Fournier
CANAC 1336 (ex CN 1336) SW1200RS switching Abitibi Consolidated's Division Kenogami in Saguenay. March 6, 2006
A one and one half mile spur connects plant to CN at M.201.4 Lac St-Jean Sub. Rod Bushway

CFFX (Chemin de Fer du Fjord) 26 on short term lease switching at Abitibi-Consolidated, Alma.
July 22, 2006 Rod Bushway (Formerly, Abitibi-Price, originally, Price Bros.)
Very unique M-420TR 2000HP Transfer (only two built) ex R&S 26 nee Alcan 26 MLW M6051-01 4/72

Abitibi-Price 49 (acq. 8/84) ex Asbestos & Danville 49 S4 MLW #81258 8/56 Alma, May 3, 1988 Doug Boyd
Ciment Quebec 50-ton B GE St.Basile-de-Portneuf Erick Pelletier
Hydro Quebec 12-012 Plymouth JLC-2 gas #2801 2/28 CRM, Delson. June 30, 1985 Gordon J. Strathdee
Built for Gatineau Power at Chelsea, which became HydroQuebec.
Acquired by the Canadian Railway Museum in 1971 it is presently displayed in the new Exporail pavilion.
Les Entreprises Martin Lajeunesse Romeo & Juliette acq. 5/02 (ex St.Lawrence Cement, Beauport) GE 45-tonner #32243 8/54 This is a trucking company that operates a wood chip reload centre on its new nearly 1 km spur to the revived Quebec Central, East Angus. They ship the chips to the Kruger paper mill in Bromptonville, QC and to Domtar in Windsor, QC.
July 2003 Rod Bushway

Noranda Mines Ltd.

Port of Montreal D2 1002 MLW S3 660 HP #77641 5/51 Canadian Railway Museum, Delson, June 30, 1998
One of eight built new in 1951 to dieselize National Harbours Board, Montreal. Gordon J. Strathdee

Port of Montreal 7601 SW1001 EMD #758024-1 7/76 3/11/07 Marc Caya
One of two units ordered from GMD and built by EMD due to small order for this model
only four of which were sold in Canada. The other two were for Saskatchewan Power in Coronach, SK.

Port of Montreal 8403 and 2008. 8403 MP15AC GMD A4423 9/84 one of four units and 2008 ex GTW 4137
EMD #24967 11/58 one of three slugs rebuilt 2000 from ex GTW GP9's. August 14, 2009 Marc Caya

POM 1001 newest thing in motive power, Rail Power genset locomotive. RP20BD 2000 hp (Deutz 3 x 667 hp) 133 tons.
Built 10/2010 at Juniata Shops, Altoona PA. nee GP9 NP 298. Enroute at Enola 10/10/10 James Kerr

Former Thurso & Nation Valley 10 re# 5132 (nee Singer Manufacturing 1, Elizabethport NJ) 50-ton GE #28625 9/46
Beautifully restored in operating condition by the Bytown Railway Society.
Shown 2003 at the Canada Science & Technology Museum in Ottawa along with restored CP 436436 wooden caboose.

Thurso Pulp & Paper 5133 (acq. 5/70 ex CNR 29) GE 70-tonner #30609 3/50 Thurso June 18, 1988
Gordon J. Strathdee Still at successor Fraser Papers in Thurso.

Thurso & Nation Valley 10 GE 50 ton Thurso September 1979 Bob Heathorn

T.N.V.R. 11 acq. 4/70 (ex CNR 36) GE 70-tonner 30616 4/50 Thurso September 18, 1981 Bob Heathorn

T.N.V.R. 12 acq. 5/70 (ex CNR 29) GE 70 tonner 30609 3/50 Bob Heathorn

Thurso 13 (acq. 11/81) GE 70-tonner #28239 10/46 Thurso June 18, 1988 Gordon J. Strathdee
A lot of history here! This was the second 70-tonner built. It spent years working for various Pinsly shortlines in the US before coming to the Thurso & Nation Valley, a non-common carrier railway of the Singer Manfacturing Co. in Quebec. It was re-engined in 1983 with a Cummins diesel. Sold in 1990 to Don Broadbear for use on tourist railway Port Stanley Terminal Rail as PSTR L4. In 1994 it was leased to OSR for use at Babcox & Wilcox in Cambridge (Galt), where it still remains in use.

Union Carbide No# Whitcomb 65-ton 65DE19A #60440 4/44 Beauharnois June 30, 1985 Gordon J. Strathdee
Apparently derelict, this unit came from their Welland plant in 1961. Acq. 3/47 ex USArmy 8434, MRS 1345.

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Quebec

Can-Car 1 Whitcomb 65-tonner Ville St-Pierre 10/21/1967 Peter Cox

Rio Tinto Alcan Bauxite and Alumina. A rather bizarre unit that has escaped everyone as it is hidden deep within Arvida. It was acquired from Germany in 1982 or 1983 when the new calcining furnace for alumina was built using Germany technology. It came with the technology package. It apparently is a B-B arrangement with a diesel mechanical or hydraulic drive. The unit is remote controlled and has a coupler only at the rear end. It is used for moving cuts of empty covered hoppers from the R & S yard tracks into the car loader and then moving the loaded cars of alumina to the adjacent yard tracks for the R & S to lift.
With a coupler at only one end it is always operating at the same end of the yard.Roberval & Saugenay does the maintenance.
May 12, 2010 Ian Stronach

PHLX 1 acq. 9/2010 (ex Domtar 28-137 nee CN 7734) SW1200 GMD A1809 7/59
CN Mac Millan Yard enroute to Parrish and Heimbecker Foods, Yorkton, SK
September 18, 2011 Brendan Frisina

NOTE: The Norkraft Domtar pulp mill in Lebel-Sur-Quevillon (QC) had been stopped since November 2005 by a lock out, the mill permanently closed December 18 2008. The pulp mill and the sawmill, also closed, were responsible for 70% of the job in this one industry town of 3000 citizens located 600km north of Montreal.

Ex Kruger Inc. 240 Trois-Rivieres (formerly Domtar Newsprint, nee St.Lawrence Paper Mills)
ex Kruger (nee Richmond Pulp & Paper), Bromptonville.
35-ton Cummins 275 hp GE 32212 2/1955 Note: Much rarer than the common 150 hp 25-tonner built by GE.
Diesel Electric Service (D) Sudbury August 30, 2006 Ian McCord

Canadian General Transportation no number 50-tonner GE 29870 6/48 nee Price Bros. No.5 spent its first forty years in Alma then to CGTX tank car facility in Riviere des Prairies. Shown here waiting scrapping by Andrew Merrilees (D) in Montreal. April 2004 Paul McGrane.

Xstrata Copper 25 (acq. 5/80 by Noranda Mines ex PA&McKR 180) 80-ton GE 31034 11/51
Two more views. Two-man crew remote control. Rouyn-Noranda June 10, 2011

Three units at what was originally Noranda Mines Ltd. in Noranda. At right is 25, while hiding behind 27 is 18 another 80-tonner, this one acquired new by Noranda Mines Ltd. 470 HP GE 32737 15/56. All remote controlled with two man crew.
Xstrata 27 (acq.1997) is SW1200RM ex CANX 27, ex CN 1326 frame with other parts from 7315 ex 1325 SW1200RS.

E.B.Eddy 2 GE 25-ton Hull January 1972 Stan Jones/Bruce Chapman Collection

E.B.Eddy #nil GE 50 ton #27935 12/46 (Rebuilt 1951 with Cummins engines and from 45 ton).
Thurso, September 13, 1981 Bob Heathorn

Francon Construction 250-05 Plymouth 30-ton MDT #5854 6/55 Walkley Yard, Ottawa November 1972
Craig/Bruce Chapman Collection
Note: This dinky worked at Franceschini Pit near Shawville M.49 CP Waltham Sub.

Smurfit-Stone Container (Canada) 2 (acq. 3/69 ex L&N 24) Alco S-1 #73586 9/45 October 6, 2006 Sean Kelly

Shown at Walkely Yard in Ottawa waiting for installation of roller bearing wheelsets for movement back to the US.
By this time all units had been disposed of with switching of the Pontiac mill turned over to Ottawa Central.

Located in Portage-du-Fort, Quebec, formerly, Abitibi-Consolidated, Stone Consolidated,
Consolidated Bathurst, originally Bathurst Power and Paper.

A long history came to an end when the mill closed down permanently October 31, 2008 with the loss 218 jobs.
At the time the mill could produce 253,000 tons a year of Northern Bleached Hardwood Kraft pulp used to make paper.

Stone Consolidated 4 acq. 1986 as Consolidated Bathurst 3 nee Rock Island 911. SW900 EMD 23461 9/59.
Portage du Fort August 12, 1999 Bob Heathorn

Holcim Ltd. Z100 (formerly, Ciment St-Laurent, Ciment Independant) S-11 MLW #82564 7/59 (acq. 6/77 ex CP 6622)
Re-engined 1987 Detroit Diesel (another source indicates Cummins) by Andrew Merrilees Ltd.
Note: This was the second last 660 HP CPR unit. Joliette, May 2009 Louis Letourneau

Quebec North Shore Paper 22 (acq.6/79) ex Roberval & Saguenay 22 RS-2 MLW #81185 4/55
Baie Comeau July 13, 1984 Pierre Fournier

CANAC 1336 (ex CN 1336) SW1200RS switching Abitibi Consolidated's Division Kenogami in Saguenay. March 6, 2006
A one and one half mile spur connects plant to CN at M.201.4 Lac St-Jean Sub. Rod Bushway

CFFX (Chemin de Fer du Fjord) 26 on short term lease switching at Abitibi-Consolidated, Alma.
July 22, 2006 Rod Bushway (Formerly, Abitibi-Price, originally, Price Bros.)
Very unique M-420TR 2000HP Transfer (only two built) ex R&S 26 nee Alcan 26 MLW M6051-01 4/72

Abitibi-Price 49 (acq. 8/84) ex Asbestos & Danville 49 S4 MLW #81258 8/56 Alma, May 3, 1988 Doug Boyd

Ciment Quebec 50-ton B GE St.Basile-de-Portneuf Erick Pelletier

Hydro Quebec 12-012 Plymouth JLC-2 gas #2801 2/28 CRM, Delson. June 30, 1985 Gordon J. Strathdee
Built for Gatineau Power at Chelsea, which became HydroQuebec.
Acquired by the Canadian Railway Museum in 1971 it is presently displayed in the new Exporail pavilion.

Les Entreprises Martin Lajeunesse Romeo & Juliette acq. 5/02 (ex St.Lawrence Cement, Beauport) GE 45-tonner #32243 8/54 This is a trucking company that operates a wood chip reload centre on its new nearly 1 km spur to the revived Quebec Central, East Angus. They ship the chips to the Kruger paper mill in Bromptonville, QC and to Domtar in Windsor, QC.
July 2003 Rod Bushway

Noranda Mines Ltd.

Port of Montreal D2 1002 MLW S3 660 HP #77641 5/51 Canadian Railway Museum, Delson, June 30, 1998
One of eight built new in 1951 to dieselize National Harbours Board, Montreal. Gordon J. Strathdee

Port of Montreal 7601 SW1001 EMD #758024-1 7/76 3/11/07 Marc Caya
One of two units ordered from GMD and built by EMD due to small order for this model
only four of which were sold in Canada. The other two were for Saskatchewan Power in Coronach, SK.

Port of Montreal 8403 and 2008. 8403 MP15AC GMD A4423 9/84 one of four units and 2008 ex GTW 4137
EMD #24967 11/58 one of three slugs rebuilt 2000 from ex GTW GP9's. August 14, 2009 Marc Caya

POM 1001 newest thing in motive power, Rail Power genset locomotive. RP20BD 2000 hp (Deutz 3 x 667 hp) 133 tons.
Built 10/2010 at Juniata Shops, Altoona PA. nee GP9 NP 298. Enroute at Enola 10/10/10 James Kerr

Former Thurso & Nation Valley 10 re# 5132 (nee Singer Manufacturing 1, Elizabethport NJ) 50-ton GE #28625 9/46
Beautifully restored in operating condition by the Bytown Railway Society.
Shown 2003 at the Canada Science & Technology Museum in Ottawa along with restored CP 436436 wooden caboose.

Thurso Pulp & Paper 5133 (acq. 5/70 ex CNR 29) GE 70-tonner #30609 3/50 Thurso June 18, 1988
Gordon J. Strathdee Still at successor Fraser Papers in Thurso.

Thurso & Nation Valley 10 GE 50 ton Thurso September 1979 Bob Heathorn

T.N.V.R. 11 acq. 4/70 (ex CNR 36) GE 70-tonner 30616 4/50 Thurso September 18, 1981 Bob Heathorn

T.N.V.R. 12 acq. 5/70 (ex CNR 29) GE 70 tonner 30609 3/50 Bob Heathorn

Thurso 13 (acq. 11/81) GE 70-tonner #28239 10/46 Thurso June 18, 1988 Gordon J. Strathdee

A lot of history here! This was the second 70-tonner built. It spent years working for various Pinsly shortlines in the US before coming to the Thurso & Nation Valley, a non-common carrier railway of the Singer Manfacturing Co. in Quebec. It was re-engined in 1983 with a Cummins diesel. Sold in 1990 to Don Broadbear for use on tourist railway Port Stanley Terminal Rail as PSTR L4. In 1994 it was leased to OSR for use at Babcox & Wilcox in Cambridge (Galt), where it still remains in use.

Union Carbide No# Whitcomb 65-ton 65DE19A #60440 4/44 Beauharnois June 30, 1985 Gordon J. Strathdee
Apparently derelict, this unit came from their Welland plant in 1961. Acq. 3/47 ex USArmy 8434, MRS 1345.