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MINUTES: November 18th 1999 - Danbury RR Station

MINUTES:  November 18th 1999   -   Danbury RR Station

 

           

1.  Chairman Rodney Chabot called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.  Minutes

of the October meeting were approved.

 

OLD BUSINESS

 

2.  Mr. Chabot reported on a New York City meeting at which the proposed Long

Island Rail Road access to Grand Central Terminal was discussed.  The complex

construction plan under which tracks would be tunneled under East 63rd Street

and under the existing Park Avenue tunnel has been amended, he noted, and a

new "deep bore" procedure is now planned.  It will dig a tunnel through solid

rock 70 feet below street level, Mr. Chabot explained, thus avoiding damage

to building foundations and the existing Park Avenue trackage.

 

Carl Leaman worried that Lower Level platforms 113 through 117, which

would accommodate the expansion of Metro North service, would now be taken

over by the LIRR.  George Walker of Metro North contended that LIRR access to

the terminal is mandated by the fact that Penn Station space, now handling

Amtrak, LIRR and NJ Transit trains, simply cannot accept further growth in

passenger rail traffic. 

 

Mr. Chabot argued that Grand Central Terminal, too, is unsuited to further

expansion of passenger volume.  He cited perilously crowded Lexington Avenue

subway entrances, and stressed that the Second Avenue subway should be built

before the LIRR access plan is implemented.

 

3.  Mr. Chabot said that, despite his many previous contacts with Mayor

Malloy of Stamford, the deterioration of Stamford station facilities

continues.  On his most recent visit, four station escalators were

inoperative.  He called the station’s condition "a disgrace,’ and asked Harry

Harris about the status of CDOT’s plan to take over operation of the station

from the city.

 

While not complete, Mr. Harris said, plans for the takeover are

progressing.  He cautioned, however, that Stamford’s deferral of needed

maintenance and existing conditions in the station will not be remedied

either quickly or at limited cost.  It will take time, he warned; the

escalator problem, for example, has no simple or economical solution.

 

4.  Jack Reidy was pleased to announce that the station reconstruction

project and the realignment of platforms remains on schedule, and is due for

completion in early 2002.  However, Mr. Harris said, community input on

esthetic and other aspects of the expansion of the parking garage have pushed

back the completion date for as much as a year.  From 1,100 to 1,200 added

spaces are to be provided, and are needed now.  Along with the pre-planning

of budget allocations, he stressed, parking remains one of CDOT’s top

problems 

 

5.  Harry Harris will respond to an inquiry from Council member John Anglace,

who was not at the meeting, asking why a new station in Fairfield seems to

have priority over expansion of the short, four-coach platform in Stratford. 

The platform is inadequate for present passenger traffic, Mr. Anglace says,

as documented recently by a telecast.  One complication, Mr. Harris

explained, is that the Stratford platform is on the outside of a curve, which

impairs the ability of trainmen to see all train doors on a long platform. 

 

Mr. Harris also said that, in quest of adequate station parking, CDOT is eager

to work with developers willing to share parking areas surrounding

businesses and other structures with railroad passengers in consideration of

the benefits a station brings in added business volume.  CDOT, he indicated,

would contribute to the cost of such parking areas.      

 

6.  Council member Allan G. Sarn and Southwest Regional Planning Association

member John Hickey, both of Wilton, deplored the CDOT delays in getting the

long planned CTC signal system for the Danbury Line underway.  Mr. Reidy

indicated that budget priorities affect the timing of the project.

 

OTHER OLD BUSINESS.  

 

Mr. Hickey complained that on a recent train trip odors in

in one of the train’s restrooms were especially pernicious, and wondered if a

solution to this problem existed.  He suggested that a new procedure for

reducing odors has been developed.  Mr. Harris said that any such deodorizing

system must also disinfect, and Mr. Hickey was uncertain that the new

approach did.

 

NEW BUSINESS.

 

1.  Mr. Chabot welcomed Mr. Sarn as a new Council member, and invited him to

raise issues involving the Danbury branch line.  Mr. Sarn said that this

branch line’s riders are the victims of CDOT neglect.  He declared that

trains operate on the line at limited speed, unnecessarily protracting the

New York commute; lights on coaches go off and on, not even functioning

between 125th Street and Grand Central Terminal; fares are unduly high for

the service rendered, and train frequency is wholly inadequate to the needs

of local residents.  He was joined in this position by Mr. Hickey and David

Hannon, deputy director of the Housatonic Valley Council of Elected

Officials.  A particular annoyance, Mr. Sarn said, is the fact that engineers

must stop for several minutes for a written note of authority before taking

trains up or down the branch line.

 

Mr. Harris explained that the absence of a signal system limits the

frequency with which trains can be operated on the line, and that lighting

outages on existing equipment cannot be avoided where there are gaps in

third rail continuity.

 

"Let’s not lose the Year 2000 as a time to begin remedying problems," Mr.

Hickey said, and Mr. Sarn urged an end to CDOT’s "negative attitude" in

dealing with Danbury line issues.  Mr. Chabot voiced hopes that

re-electrifiication of the line would be considered when CTC signal system

poles are put in place, and that South Norwalk be made the only main line

stop for morning and evening through trains to and from Danbury.

 

Mr. Harris indicated that the budget outlook precluded a $22 million

expenditure for restoring electrification to the line in the immediate

future.  However, the signal system, costing $16 million, will allow headway

between trains to be cut from the present 15 or 20 minutes to three minutes,

he said, and four existing sidings can be used for operating trains in both

directions on the line.

 

2.  Messrs. Boice and Dinallo were not present for their scheduled

presentation on behalf of the Station Amenities Committee.  Mr. Harris said

CDOT is working to standardize station design and amenities. Although varying

designs will be used for stations, he explained, according to their passenger

volume, there will be basic uniformity in their appearances.  The coming

re-do of the Darien station, for example, will generally follow the format

used in New Canaan, but the two stations will still look slightly different, he said.

 

3.  The recent accident in which a City of Milford garbage truck struck the

railroad overpass in Milford was discussed.  Severe damage moved trackage out

of line, Mr. Reidy noted, and service was limited to one track, but there

were no major delays for rail passengers.  The repair cost will be billed to

Milford, he indicated.

 

4.  Thanksgiving holiday Metro North service will accommodate Connecticut

residents going to New York City for shopping and the parade, Mr. Reidy

indicated, although Mr. Harris stressed the dilemma involved in taking riders

out of state from Connecticut retailing.

 

OTHER NEW BUSINESS.  

 

Stephanie Harwood asked for an inquiry regarding a recent one-hour delay

on Train 6529, the 12:45 p.m. Saturday train from Darien, during which

inadequate information was imparted to waiting passengers.  The train

was apparently annulled.  She also asked Mr. Walker to establish why

there has been no morning ticket agent in Noroton Heights for two weeks. 

She noted, too, recent issues raised in the media regarding the

proposed reconfiguration of the Westport station area.  An issue was raised

regarding the lack of station announcements on Danbury branch line evening

through trains.  Lee Carlson of Madison, from the Shore Line East Riders

Association, asked if Metro North trains would run to the new State Street

station in New Haven when it is put in operation.  Mr. Harris said that this

is under consideration, but that in all likelihood all Metro North trains

wouldn’t continue to the new station.

 

Meeting adjourned.  Next meeting Wed. December 17th , SACIA, Stamford.