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http://www.railpac.org/2007/03/20/railpacnarp-march-conference-report-1-the-opening-session/

Joint Membership Meeting and Conference, Saturday, March 17, 2007

Keynote Speech by:  Alex Kummant, President Amtrak


Pictures and Text by Carl Morrison, Carl@TrainWeb.com

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Getting There:

Attendees arrived via every mode of transportation.  RailPAC had planned it so those of us who wanted to take rail to the Conference could do so easily.  A group from Orange County boarded the Pacific Surfliner Train 763.  This train eventually included Friends of TrainWeb.com in Orange County and Let's Talk Trains Staff from San Diego County, as it arrived at Los Angeles Union Station.  As  had been pointed out in RailPAC e-mails fro Ric Silver, all we needed to do upon detraining in LA was to walk to the MTA Gateway Center 3rd floor, pick up our badges for the conference, have a pastry and coffee, and chat with friends until the doors to the Board Room were opened and the 300 attendees took their seats.

The MTA Gateway Center at LAUS:


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The following shots are from the balcony shown above.
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The Board room where the Conference would meet.

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Ken Ruben welcomed all attendees and directed them to the registration desk.




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At the Registration Table, we obtained our nametags and a packet including the all-important lunch ticket.
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The Gateway Center had beautiful transportation-related murals.
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Richard Silver directed us to the cafeteria where coffee and pastries were provided, with a view!

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The dining room (left) had large west-facing windows with a view across LAUS to downtown on this foggy morning.
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Those of us on the dining room balcony enjoyed watching a Pacific Surfliner arrive at LAUS
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Soon a Gold Line train arrived having just made its last stop before LAUS, Chinatown.  The steam was not RR related.
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Anton L., Friend of TrainWeb.com, was in attendance.
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Chris Parker, Friend of TrainWeb.com, was in attendance.

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Chris Guenzler, scheduled to hit 1 million miles of rail travel in April, attended as well.

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Engineer Richard and Nicholas were there to record the proceedings and will have verbatim recordings at Let's Talk Trains so you too can hear the presentations.  http://www.letstalktrains.us/
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It was near capacity seating of the nearly 300 advocates.
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The Conference begins:

An Excellent Program was provided attendees with pictures of the speakers!  This is an excellent aide for reporters and attendees that may not know the shakers and movers in rail in California and the U. S., yet are responsible to accurately report on the conference.  This reporter thanks RailPAC for this extra effort!

At 10:15, Opening remarks were made by

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Paul Dyson, President RailPAC


He mentioned that this was a 2-day conference packed into one day so questions would be limited after the speakers' presentations.  In lieu of getting to ask a question,  attendees were invited to e-mail Mr. Dyson with questions after the conference.

pdyson@railpac.org, 818-845-9599

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Ross Capon, Executive Director NARP

Mr. Capon welcomed all to the Conference and showed slides of US Congress members and their contact information who are involved with rail.  He also handed out membership forms to join NARP.


Keynote Speech:  Alex Kummant, President Amtrak since Sept. 2006



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Mr. Kummant is a veteran railroad and industrial executive responsible for Amtrak, a business in excess of $3 billion in annual revenues, more than $9 billion in assets and 19,000 employees.

There is a remarkable accomplishment by Amtrak in the West.  He has learned, Amtrak is more than the Northeast Corridor and the Eastern Seaboard.

California is situated to contribute to the National debate on a national rail system.

David Gunn rescued the Northeast Corridor.  California and Illinois are the states driving rail in the US with their riderships and investments.

His vision, in a power point presentation:

Amtrak is a growth product with excellence and sound management.  Amtrak needs to earn the right to grow our Intercity Corridors.

He feels the Amtrak's long distance trains will not be profitable.

• 22,000 route miles in 46 states
• Serving 500 stations. 
• Long-distance ridership is up 1%, some entities are up 5 to 6%
• Ticket revenues or $1.371 billion are up 10.7%
• 68% on-time performance overall

Investment:

California is 1st in matching funds.  $1.8 billion has been matched by California since 1990, to upgrade track and signals.  There are 70 intercity trains and 100 CalTrain Commuters.

There are 3,300 Amtrak employees in CA, including 500 at the Riverside call center
where he said he was going to visit next.

Outsorucing is no panacea,
got unexpected applause from the attendees and surprised Mr. Kummant.

Ideas:

Los Angeles to Las Vegas, maybe the casinos will put up the money.

"Moose to Mouse" Maine to DisneyWorld east coast program.

It's all about partnerships and two big players are the freight railroads and realestate.

S. 294 reauthorization bill should advance the partnership.  It is multi-year funding for Amtrak, hopefully passed by summer.  Current cash for Amtrak is down to $40 million and it is unheard of for a $3.5 billion dollar company in the private sector to be down that much.

Issues:

On-time performance.  80% more capacity needed in the next 10-15 years for freight and passengers in US.  California Zephyr across Nevada has the worst on-time performance in the country averaging over 5 hours late. 

Long-distance trains
Perhaps the CZ should be marketed from Chicago to Denver as a ski and business train and Denver to Los Angeles as an Excursion Train.

• Labor

(UP has spent $3.2 billion on infrastructure this year and share holders are getting a low return compared to other US companies.)

•The Coast Starlight will be 'relaunched' after the current track work is finished.




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After Mr. Kummant's speech, Chris "The Amazing" Guenzler,  spoke with Alex about his approaching 1 million miles ridden on trains, and gave him a letter inviting him to the celebration in LaPlata, MO, in April.

Mr. Kummant, in his short tenure as President of Amtrak, has met all the CEOs of the freight railroads and all realize it is a public issue, not just about their impact on Amtrak.

He supports long-distance trains.  In fact, 24 of the 46 states served are only served by long distance trains, and nearly 1/2 the miles traveled on Amtrak are on long-distance trains.

GOALS:

Stability, Efficiency, and Relevance.

Fare box recovery is 70% of the budget and long-distance (Intercity) trains will never be profitable, so get over it.

Food Service:

There are food and beverage initiatives
Diner-Lounge conversions
Applying the Empire Builder model to the fleet
Retain the Pacific Parlor [sic] Cars

Labor:  Employees have been without a contract since 2,000.

Other Initiatives:  E-Ticketing, Greater onboard management, Rolling stock purchases

Questions still unanswered:  No one has said, "What is our product?"  Should they add something as an add-on to gain revenue.

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Anton L. "CoastStarlight99," right in dark shirt, wanted a picture of him shaking Mr. Kummant's hand.  I did get a picture of Anton politely waiting, then the gavel called us back to the meeting and I only got Mr. Kummant, (right), after shaking Anton's hand.  That may have been the only time all day that Mr. Kummant smiled.
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Richard Phelps, back to camera, has become a Vice President of Transportation in Washington.  We know Richard in the west as the head of Amtrak here.

Amtrak and the Future of National and State Systems


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Moderator:  Art Lloyd, Vice President RailPAC
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Bill Bronte, Division of Rail, Chief - Caltrans

The 2nd, 3rd, and 5th highest ridership corridors are in California with 20% of Amtrak's ridership.  Propositions gave needed money to get CalTrain, Calif. Amtrak, and the Coaster going.  California needs to segway with the current Amtrak Bill.
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Ross Capon, Executive Director NARP

Long-distance trains are 47% of Amtrak's revenue with 5.4 billion passenger miles.  Amtrak is the only public transportation to a growing number of smaller cities.  Travelers need an alternative to flying.  Amtrak is the only train for 23 states.  PRIIA (S. 294) requires monitoring of on-time performance.  Amtrak uses less energy than planes and cars by 18%.  Jet fuel is outpacing domestic fares.  The Carbon Cost of a trip is best by rail.  Rail can sell carbon credits to airlines when this goes into effect in 2009 in California.
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Andrew Selden, United Rail Passenger Alliance

Business strategy is the problem with Amtrak.  Amtrak mis-measures ridership.  Pacific Surfliner really increased profitability when it expanded north of Los Angeles.  Amtrak is investing $1 billion+ each year in the wrong areas and not getting growth.  He would:  1.  Throw out the route accounting.  2.  Leverage the fleet assets to more than the Acela Route which is getting negative profitability.  3.  Pay frieght lines more for the use of their property.

LUNCH

A tasty box lunch was provided with drink included.

Regional and Commuter Rail, Lessons from the Northeast


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Governor Michael Dukakis
Former Amtrak Director

1988, Mr. Dukakis was the Democratic Presidential Candidate.  (He was nominated in Atlanta and said today, "I peaked in Atlanta.") Governor of Massachusetts 1974-78 and 82-90.  He was on the Amtrak Board of Directors 1998 - 2003.

Today he arrived on the Red Line and spoke first about three things

1.  Northeast.

He recently spoke at a regional summit about a megalopolis developing in the Northeast, including 12 states down to Virginia.  He spoke about the infrastructure needed to serve the growing economy and population.  Solution:  A First Class High Speed Transit System between cities.

2.  California.

Mr. Dukakis is baffled by the CA state transportation policy with new proposals for highways  since the transportation proposition passed.  He credits Mayor V. of L.A. for transportation improvements.  He said, The joy of the Pacific Surfliner is being able to look out at the poor people on the I-5...when are they going to stop widening the I-5?

The first High Speed Rail Line in North America will be in Mexico
(laughter).  No, really, it will be from Guadalahara to Mexico City.

High Speed Rail is the biggest Calif. state issue for the next 20 years.

3.  The Next Presidential Election is Very Important. 

Impress upon the people running for President the importance of High Speed Rail and City Corridors.  Be at political appearances and support a first class national rail passenger system and first class commuter rail systems.

You (the audience) have no idea how important you are in influencing political candidates to support first class rail in the United States.

Southern California Regional Rail, A Sleeping Giant?


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Moderator:  Dennis Lytton, NARP Director
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Mike McGinley, Retired Southern Pacific Railroad and Metrolink.

Mr. McGinley responded to questions after Paul Dyson's Power Point Presentation.

He wants to make sure that rights-of-way are not sold from old abandoned railroads.  High speed rail can go to 5 - 6% grades when freight, and their abandoned rights-of-way, go to 2%.  Thus, using old rights-of-way for high speed rail means miles of 2% grade when shorter routes could be used at higher percentages to cross the mountains to connect S.F. and L.A. 
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Paul Dyson, President RailPAC

Mr. Dyson had a Power Point with some of the points:

Southern California has:

64 stations
963 route miles (LOSSAN Corridor + Metrolink)
186 week day trains
3 main line rail operators
20 million+ potential customers
Heavily congested freeways

All the projects you've heard about today need money.  There will never be enough government money.

Switzerland comparison.  Switzerland is roughly the size of CA from Santa Barbara to Indio.  They have 250 rail and bus operators and still do transit on one ticket all day every day on all parts of the system.

What Mr. Dyson feels we need in L.A. are:

LAUS run-through tracks
Laguna Niguel to Chatsworth Spine

among other suggestions.


Urban Rail Transit, Vital Projects to Create a United System


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Moderator:  James Smith, Vice President RailPAC
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Melvin Clark, Deputy Executive Officer, Metro Rail

Future Plans:  • Eastside Extension, 6-miles in 2009 are opening.  Some subway, but mostly street running
• Light rail connecting the Blue Line to Culver City with new lightrail cars to operate on all lines with the flip of a switch, the 2550 Rail Vehicle.  • Some thoughts to a "Subway to the Sea" as well. 
His philosophy,  If we are not going fast, it is not Rapid Transit."
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Bart Reed, Executive Director, The Transit Coalition

Mr. Reed posed a couple of questions, and gave the answers he has researched• Why doesn't the Green Line go to the airport?   The airport is in the parking business, and a rail line to the airport would lessen parking.

• What about the People Mover?  Originally it was to go from a parking lot to the airport.  Now thoughts are for the greenline to go to the airport instead of a People Mover, so there would not be two imcompatible systems.
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Jerard Wright, Vice President, The Transit Coalition

Jerard spoke to a downtown regional connector to fill the gap, connecting the Green, Gold, and Red Lines to make one regional system.  This would change from the current "88 towns in search of a city," using air rights (bases of new high rise buildings to include subway station space and track.)

High Speed Rail


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Dan Leavitt, Assistant Executive Director, California High Speed Rail Authority

Mr. Leavitt first thanked all attendees for staying for this late portion of the conference.

He then showed the current 10 minute 18 sec. video about California High Speed Rail available online at:

http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/

(scroll down the page and select the format)

Thanks to Steve Grande's posting of this site the previous week at TrainWeb.com, I had seen it.  I still learned these facts from the video:

By 2030, there will be 50 million people in California.  This train will travel up to 220 mph in rural Central California.  It will take under 1 hr. 20 mins.  from San Diego to LA, 20 minutes from LA to Anaheim, 1:30 LA to Fresno, 2:30 from LA to San Francisco.  They expect 100 million passengers per year by 2030.  It will be an electrified train.  (Author's comment:  I had heard at another Conference how much more efficient electrified trains are than diesel since, "they don't have to carry the electric power plant.")  It will use rail and freeway corridors to minimize the impact on wetlands and wildlife.  It will stop in City Centers.  Separated grades will help eliminate traditional crossings where cars and trucks have to stop.  Finally, this High Speed Rail is a solution to the Global Warming Problem. 

Mr. Leavitt said there were both shorter (4 min.) and longer (20 min.) versions of this video being made for use on PBS.

He also said that more recent models of the California High Speed Rail show 86-117 million riders with $2.6 - 3.9 million revenues by 2030.  This is based on rising gas prices ($3.00+ per gallon on this date) and rising air travel prices.  Project implementation is now funded by CA Legislature.  LA to Anaheim and LA to Palmdale public meetings will be held first, between April and September.  The Bond Issue will be on the 2008 ballot for California High Speed Rail, after being delayed being on the ballot by 2 or more years for various reasons.

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One thing I wish that RailPAC would have included in the Biographies section of the program would have been each speaker's e-mail address.  That way those wishing to show support, or who had unanswered questions at the conference, or who needed to fact-check their reports could contact the speakers directly rather than sending their questions through RailPAC or searching out the e-mail addresses on the Internet.  Additionally, if RailPAC would get permission to post the power point presentations of all the speakers on their websites, this would also facilitate fact-checking for those at the conference, and a good reference for those who were unable to attend.

It was a long day at the Conference, but the excellent selection of presentations, and an effort on the part of RailPAC to keep the conference moving and on time was most appreciated.

I left the Gateway Center, thinking to myself that this would probably be my last time inside this beautiful facility, but knowing I'd see it many more times from the outside as I traveled through Los Angeles Union Station.  Some final photos as I awaited my Pacific Surfliner back to Fullerton Station.

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Sound recordings will become available through Let's Talk Trains:  http://www.letstalktrains.us/showlist.asp

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